Comments on: Calling time on ESB http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2005/07/calling-time-on-esb.html Thoughts on BPM, collaboration, analytics and information management, technology trends and the business value of IT Sat, 04 Feb 2012 07:21:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Neil Ward-Dutton http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2005/07/calling-time-on-esb.html/comment-page-1#comment-11 Neil Ward-Dutton Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:10:00 +0000 http://mwdtemp.wordpress.com/2005/07/11/calling-time-on-esb/#comment-11 Mark,<br/>Thanks for the comment!<br/>What happened to "the customer is always right"? ;-)<br/>What's interesting about the whole ESB thing, is that I know of a number of customers of companies like webMethods (they already have significant EAI investments) which are now looking for ESBs...either there's something seriously amiss with their existing implementations, or they're really being duped. Mark,
Thanks for the comment!
What happened to “the customer is always right”? ;-)
What’s interesting about the whole ESB thing, is that I know of a number of customers of companies like webMethods (they already have significant EAI investments) which are now looking for ESBs…either there’s something seriously amiss with their existing implementations, or they’re really being duped.

]]> By: Neil Ward-Dutton http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2005/07/calling-time-on-esb.html/comment-page-1#comment-12 Neil Ward-Dutton Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:10:00 +0000 http://mwdtemp.wordpress.com/2005/07/11/calling-time-on-esb/#comment-12 Mark,<br/>Thanks for the comment!<br/>What happened to "the customer is always right"? ;-)<br/>What's interesting about the whole ESB thing, is that I know of a number of customers of companies like webMethods (they already have significant EAI investments) which are now looking for ESBs...either there's something seriously amiss with their existing implementations, or they're really being duped. Mark,
Thanks for the comment!
What happened to “the customer is always right”? ;-)
What’s interesting about the whole ESB thing, is that I know of a number of customers of companies like webMethods (they already have significant EAI investments) which are now looking for ESBs…either there’s something seriously amiss with their existing implementations, or they’re really being duped.

]]> By: Mark http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2005/07/calling-time-on-esb.html/comment-page-1#comment-9 Mark Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:29:00 +0000 http://mwdtemp.wordpress.com/2005/07/11/calling-time-on-esb/#comment-9 Neil,<br/><br/>The problem is not so much rooted in the marketing departments of various software vendors, that, in many respects, is their job to create buzz about their product or to attempt to create (ok, sometimes out of thin air) a perceived need for their product.<br/><br/>The real issue lies with the IT management folks who are so poorly read (even now, after three plus years of web services hype) that they would buy this line.<br/><br/>I am a webMethods architect who speciliazes in implmenting ESB infrastructure. Any tool can handle the first steps of an organization toward SOA, it takes a mature tool (and vendor) to provide capabilities that are truly enterprise class. <br/><br/>Pure-play startups often provide some very innovative ideas, but lack the broad base of ultra high-volume customers that provide the blast furnace to really harden their products. Neil,

The problem is not so much rooted in the marketing departments of various software vendors, that, in many respects, is their job to create buzz about their product or to attempt to create (ok, sometimes out of thin air) a perceived need for their product.

The real issue lies with the IT management folks who are so poorly read (even now, after three plus years of web services hype) that they would buy this line.

I am a webMethods architect who speciliazes in implmenting ESB infrastructure. Any tool can handle the first steps of an organization toward SOA, it takes a mature tool (and vendor) to provide capabilities that are truly enterprise class.

Pure-play startups often provide some very innovative ideas, but lack the broad base of ultra high-volume customers that provide the blast furnace to really harden their products.

]]> By: Mark http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2005/07/calling-time-on-esb.html/comment-page-1#comment-10 Mark Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:29:00 +0000 http://mwdtemp.wordpress.com/2005/07/11/calling-time-on-esb/#comment-10 Neil,<br/><br/>The problem is not so much rooted in the marketing departments of various software vendors, that, in many respects, is their job to create buzz about their product or to attempt to create (ok, sometimes out of thin air) a perceived need for their product.<br/><br/>The real issue lies with the IT management folks who are so poorly read (even now, after three plus years of web services hype) that they would buy this line.<br/><br/>I am a webMethods architect who speciliazes in implmenting ESB infrastructure. Any tool can handle the first steps of an organization toward SOA, it takes a mature tool (and vendor) to provide capabilities that are truly enterprise class. <br/><br/>Pure-play startups often provide some very innovative ideas, but lack the broad base of ultra high-volume customers that provide the blast furnace to really harden their products. Neil,

The problem is not so much rooted in the marketing departments of various software vendors, that, in many respects, is their job to create buzz about their product or to attempt to create (ok, sometimes out of thin air) a perceived need for their product.

The real issue lies with the IT management folks who are so poorly read (even now, after three plus years of web services hype) that they would buy this line.

I am a webMethods architect who speciliazes in implmenting ESB infrastructure. Any tool can handle the first steps of an organization toward SOA, it takes a mature tool (and vendor) to provide capabilities that are truly enterprise class.

Pure-play startups often provide some very innovative ideas, but lack the broad base of ultra high-volume customers that provide the blast furnace to really harden their products.

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