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IDS-Scheer: everyone's best friend

Friday, August 4, 2006 by

Yesterday Oracle announced that it’s partnered with IDS-Scheer to resell the elements of the ARIS business process modelling and simluation platform as part of its Fusion Middleware suite. Moreover there will be a significant degree of integration of the modelling tools and Oracle’s middleware – including with its identity management capability, service registry and so on. Initially the focus will be on design-time integration, but the plan is to move beyond this within a few months to add integration across the whole “process lifecycle”.

IDS-Scheer is everyone’s best friend these days, it seems. Oracle’s nemesis SAP has had a “strategic relationship” with the modelling tools specialist for a while – IDS-Scheer jointly developed the SAP APO module and is a long-standing SAP implementation partner.

This partnership appears to have a lot of technical depth to it, too – it’s not just a sales deal. Importantly, the ARIS integration will be available to customers of Peoplesoft, JD Edwards and Siebel customers as those application suites start to be migrated onto the Fusion Middleware platform. The ability to use ARIS to do end-to-end process analysis, modelling, implementation, operation and improvement – integrated into the core application and middleware functionality of their existing investments – should be a tasty carrot for customers to move to Fusion-powered versions.

Of course Oracle’s known for the prowess of its announcements. However IDS-Scheer is known for its seriousness and practicality. Hopefully the combination of the two will be a positive one – as there’s potential for everyone to win here.

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3 Responses to IDS-Scheer: everyone's best friend

  1. Thomas Otter says:

    you may be stretching this a bit..

    Scheer has had partnerships with Baan, PeopleSoft Siebel and others before, and they never really flew so I’m not sure this is really that different.

    IDS-Scheer does needs to show the market that is more than a neat SAP process documentation tool.

    The SAP Scheer relationship goes back along way and is very deep, so Scheer and co will probably be treading very carefully. Prof Scheer himself is on the SAP supervisory board.

    It suits Oracle to make a noise about this, but the fact that Oracle needs to partner with such a SAP centric company for modelling tools points more to the weakness of the Oracle stack and ecosystem than anything else…

  2. Thomas Otter says:

    you may be stretching this a bit..

    Scheer has had partnerships with Baan, PeopleSoft Siebel and others before, and they never really flew so I’m not sure this is really that different.

    IDS-Scheer does needs to show the market that is more than a neat SAP process documentation tool.

    The SAP Scheer relationship goes back along way and is very deep, so Scheer and co will probably be treading very carefully. Prof Scheer himself is on the SAP supervisory board.

    It suits Oracle to make a noise about this, but the fact that Oracle needs to partner with such a SAP centric company for modelling tools points more to the weakness of the Oracle stack and ecosystem than anything else…

  3. Thomas Otter says:

    you may be stretching this a bit..

    Scheer has had partnerships with Baan, PeopleSoft Siebel and others before, and they never really flew so I’m not sure this is really that different.

    IDS-Scheer does needs to show the market that is more than a neat SAP process documentation tool.

    The SAP Scheer relationship goes back along way and is very deep, so Scheer and co will probably be treading very carefully. Prof Scheer himself is on the SAP supervisory board.

    It suits Oracle to make a noise about this, but the fact that Oracle needs to partner with such a SAP centric company for modelling tools points more to the weakness of the Oracle stack and ecosystem than anything else…

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