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	<title>Comments on: Even standards organisations aren&#039;t immune to twodotoism</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Macehiter</title>
		<link>http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2006/12/even-standards-organisations-arent.html/comment-page-1#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Macehiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments re the participation of technology adopters in the definition of standards is well made and something we have commented on before:&lt;br/&gt; http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2006/11/with-standards-do-we-get-what-we.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think you are being a little unfair on the Liberty Alliance as adopters have (and as far as I am aware continue) played a role since the founding of the project.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the case of the Liberty 2.0 workshop, John Kemp is actually from Nokia which, in this context at least, I would argue is closer to an adopter of software rather than a purveyor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My only other observation is that is still early days in the whole user-centric identity space and I think it might be a little early for  organisations to explain how they are using it (although I have spoken to at least one organisation in the UK that is making great strides with InfoCard). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That being said, one would hope that as adoption takes hold, we see some real world experience discussed at this type of event</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments re the participation of technology adopters in the definition of standards is well made and something we have commented on before:<br /> <a href="http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2006/11/with-standards-do-we-get-what-we.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2006/11/with-standards-do-we-get-what-we.html</a></p>
<p>I think you are being a little unfair on the Liberty Alliance as adopters have (and as far as I am aware continue) played a role since the founding of the project.</p>
<p>In the case of the Liberty 2.0 workshop, John Kemp is actually from Nokia which, in this context at least, I would argue is closer to an adopter of software rather than a purveyor.</p>
<p>My only other observation is that is still early days in the whole user-centric identity space and I think it might be a little early for  organisations to explain how they are using it (although I have spoken to at least one organisation in the UK that is making great strides with InfoCard). </p>
<p>That being said, one would hope that as adoption takes hold, we see some real world experience discussed at this type of event</p>
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		<title>By: James McGovern</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McGovern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed that all of the speakers at the upcoming Liberty Alliance event work for software vendors? It was originally started as a way for enterprises who primary business isn&#039;t technology to have a say. They are a lost cause..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed that all of the speakers at the upcoming Liberty Alliance event work for software vendors? It was originally started as a way for enterprises who primary business isn&#8217;t technology to have a say. They are a lost cause..</p>
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